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The Locomotive "Cwmtillery"My late father William
(Bill) Davies was a blacksmith at Cwmtillery Colliery
before transferring to Abertillery New Mine (Roseheyworth|).
The family resided at 80 West Bank, Cwmtillery between 1945 and 1947, prior to
moving to Abertillery.
I note your website contains a photograph of the locomotive "Cwmtillery". You may be
interested in some 'facts' about the loco and the photograph?
My grandfather, Arthur Davies, drove the locomotives 'Busy Bee' and 'Jessie'
prior to the 'Cwmtillery'. He drove between all the
collieries in the Blaina district. 'Cwmtillery' was
allocated to Cwmtillery Colliery circa 1925, it moved to Blaina, no reason given, however the locomotive may not
have been suitable for Cwmtillery or because Beynon's
Colliery at Blaina required an additional locomotive.
The locomotive remained at Blaina for the major part of
its life. It was despatched to Tredegar for a short
period before returning to Blaina and being sold or
scrapped after April 1967 and before August 1967
(further details attached from the Davies Family
History).
The photograph was taken circa 1925 to 1930 at Blaina.
Standing on the footplate (inside the cab) is Thomas
David McNeill (1880 - 1939). On the footplate (next to
the cab) is Arthur Davies (1886 - 1952) (my
grandfather). On the footplate at the front of the
engine is Albert Morden. Standing on the ground - right
- is Duncan Yates, on the left - not identified.
Thomas David McNeill, Arthur Davies and Albert Morden
are all related by marriage
Many Thanks to Idris Davies as the information
provider (July 2004).
Bakehouse near Winifred Terrace and the old house that
stood on the Fieldings Terrace side of the Pit Head
Baths Once familiar site on the West Side was the old
bake house which was situated in front of Winifred Terrace. It was a wood
structure I seem to remember and it had been disused for a long time. It
finally burnt down in the early 50s. Anyone know anything about it. When it was
operational, when it became disused, when it was built?
Many people can
remember around the mid 1940s making cakes at home at
Christmas time and then
taking them to the bake house were they would bake them for you FOC.
Does anyone remember the old house that stood on the Fieldings Terrace
side of the Pit Head Baths? It was demolished in the late 50s or so to make way
for the Boiler Room addition to the Baths. At this time, the old Lancaster
Boilers were removed. It would be interesting to hear who lived there and when
it was built?
Yes, it was for most of the time that I remembered it, in
ruins. I remember exploring it when I was very young. Sort of a dare with some
others. Armed with candles we tip toed through the rooms keeping a look out
with one eye for ghosts and the other eye for Bobby Parsons.
Shops-boots-shoes and payday I have
read in books about the Relief man? Was this a person arranging some kind of
loan for the people until payday And was the fund held by the council Can
anyone expand on this as I would like to include it to the site. Also the Boot
fund, did children have to ask their headmaster before being issued with new
one? Where did the boots/shoes come from, that is who funded it and can anyone
expand on how the system worked Look forward to any input, message board or
emails I'll leave it up to you Did the Co op shop in Cwmtillery fit into this
anywhere
As far as I can remember the "Relief" was the local name for
the the type of Social Welfare that existed when I was a boy( wartime and
shortly after. Therefore the "relief man" was probably the person who dealt with
your case. I think it was dealt with at Portland Street and would have been well
used in those days of austerity and large families prior to the changes made by
the Labour government from 1945 to 1951. I have never heard of the boot man but
I certainly remember the lady who brought the Provident Cheque( Mrs
Mc-Traverse).
My memories of the tales told about "The Relief Man" make
him into the person (of course a Man in that period of time)who visited houses
that were applying for today's equivalent of supplementary benefits and applied
the "Means Test" in the 1920 & 30s. Families had to prove, on a weekly
basis, that they had no "Means" of raising enough money to keep the family fed
for the week. This applied to ANY items that could possibly be sold or pawned.
The criteria for help was very strictly applied so all of the household goods
that were over and above the families need were hidden, sometimes being passed
over the back yard to the previous house that had been visited whilst he walked
around the front to knock on the door. I heard tales of wedding rings being
hidden in some very imaginative places when all the old folk in the family sat
about the fire remembering their "Good Old Days". As for the Boot Club, I will
ask my cousin who remembers much more than I. Spoke to my mum on this one.
She said this was during the strikes, you went to a board that head been set up
and asked for help. It was means tested and they did expect women to sell their
wedding rings etc. (of course this meant items being hidden by neighbours and
friends. You did not always get money from the relief man, often what you
received was a note to get shoes or groceries. Mum knew nothing about the boot
fund.
Cwmtillery Snooker hall 25-April 01 The
Cwmtillery snooker hall was located on West bank (see album five Pictures
Page, I have no info before it became a Snooker hall. But it went from the
snooker hall to a roller skating hall which was owned by Mr
Purnell who also
owned the shop just below the hall on the other side of the road. After the
hall was closed it was owner by someone that hiring and delivered washing
machines (it was said he could lift and carry a washing machine on this own,
pretty good for a man with one leg?). Finally it turned into a battery hen
house with over 250 hens, then late 50s early 60s it was demolished. Nowadays,
two houses have be erected on the site.
The Britannia Pub -- 20-April-01 Near the old railway line a little way up from
the Mount was the Pub" The Britannia", I have been told it was known as "The
Old Maids" because it was run by sisters, but how many sisters two or three?
Also it was well known for the staff of the steam loco to purchase a jug of ale
on the way up the valley and hand in the empty on the way back. Anyone have any
stories or comment.... Les
The Brittania Pub was down the bottom of
Hill street from the Mount Pleasant. It faced the railway line and was commonly
know as the Old Maids, as it was run by Three Dear Spinster ladies. Given time
I might just be able to recall their surname, or find out from an older cousin
who lived close to it. I enjoyed many a glass of lemonade sitting on the
windowsill, outside of course, if Mum and Dad walked out for a
Shandy of a
summer evening.
I've been racking my brain for weeks now, trying to
think of the street name (Hill Street). Even walked down by around the area
last Saturday hoping it would move a few brain cell into gear.
In 1970
I bought my first car, and used to rent a garage up the hill from the " Old
Maids Pub". The hill used to head up towards the old Washery, that hill we used
to call The Brittania Hill. At the top of the hill turn right go over the old
bridge and there was the Bridgend Pub. Hill Street was the steep hill that came
off Alma St by the Mount Pleasant Pub down to Peny Bont. I was born on Hill
Street.
The more people talk about a topic the more it
stirs up the
old memory box. I used to run down hill street and across the valley if I was
late for school (gelli person was I) and bike down the hill that ran from alma
st to the Brittania hill when I worked for Henley's in the early 70s but can't
remember the pub. My father can because he used to stop the steam engine and
purchase a jug of ale. More info on the "Old Maids" pub. It was on
Brittania Road, led from Alma Street near the start of the wall to Blaenau Gwent
Chapel Cemetery, all the way down the hill, past the bottom of Hill Street, past
the Brittania pub up to the junction where you turned right across the bridge
to the New Bridge End pub and the scouts hut, who remembers the dances held
there - oh happy times, It was run by the three Miss Lewis's, one may have been
called Binah, that's according to my cousin, who is now well into her 70's and
was born and brought up in Bryn Morgan Terrace just a couple of hundred yards
up from the pub, so I think it's fairly accurate. She, like me, has memories of
the glasses of lemonade and packets of Smiths crisp, with the blue paper salt
twist in them, as special treats. She also remembers "Brittania House" which
was the larger house with steps
I delivered the South
Wales echo to the
Brittaia pub in the late fifties early sixties. Two sisters ran the place then
and they were always known as the old maids, as was the pub. If the truth be
known I found them a bit scary, and it always seemed that I was the only
person who ever went into the place. There was a good apple tree in the back
garden though and us boys would sometimes get over our fears, with each others
help, and go scrumping in the place. happy scary times.
I too remember
the Old Maids Pub. I can also remember the old steam dray that used to deliver
the beer to the pub. I think I would be correct in saying that the driver would
have been Gral Samuels as he very often used to talk to us kids when the dray
ran out of steam half-way up the hill. I also remember people who lived in the
area, Harry (Slabby) Bennet and Richard & April Lewis.
Incidentally Gral
Samuels had two children living in Abertillery, Don & Val Samuels who lived
at the bottom of Oak Street, (near the rugby club). You see I lived in
Bryn Morgan Terrace during WW2 with my Grandmother. I can also remember the
Silks kids, Freda and I think she had two brothers Alan & ?. Perhaps she
can jog my memory through your page.
Hello to all the Cwmtillery/Abertillery Migrants -
residents -- Freda Griffiths - Nee Silk, 26-March-01 Mon
I am so pleased to have found this site, thank you once again Les for
setting up and maintaining it, your time and hard work are really appreciated,
by me, my cousin and niece, Denise Silk of the same schools but late 1950's)in
Australia. I went to the "Crown" infants school in the early 40's and then on
to Cock 'n Chick late 40's leaving Gelli Crug in 1954. I would love to hear
from any one that attended same time as me. I have a couple of school photos
and I can't put names to every one in them. I have lots and lots of memories of
all the places mentioned here and more. My Grandparents Sarah and Henry Wright
lived in West Bank, my parents Fred and Maud Silk moved to Alma Street, (close
to Wallaces Lane) when they married in the mid 20's. I played all over
Cwmtillery & Penybont particularly over the Washery and old coke ovens
site, with many a dip in the old feeder tanks. I would really like news of Gary
and Margaret Ace who used to live in Brynmorgan terrace or any of the other
"Kids" that were in the gang there. I remember the Tombs family and also the
Gilsons. I could go on forever, and really look forward to hearing from anyone
that remembers me or my older brothers, Ivor and Bob Silk. God keep you all
safe and warm there. Freda Griffiths
Cwmtillery Lakes: Just another quick memory!
Can anyone else remember swimming in the Lakes and playing in the old stone
'bridge' that was there? And damming up the old sheep dip at the west side of
the lakes so that we could swim in that too? It makes me shudder to think what
we could have caught to make us ill. Of course we were forbidden by rightly
concerned parents to go near either, but we were kids after all!
Regards
Lesley Butcher.
Memories
I lived all my life until I was 24 in Cwmtillery. Does anyone remember me? I
lived at Gladstone Buildings next to Gwyneths shop, with my parents Des &
June Young, and brother Glenn until I was 14, then we all moved into a house
that my dad built up at the old Top Rows. Ours was the first house built to
replace the old houses (I believe there are quite a few there now) the only
other house was an old prefab that had been bricked around at the other end. My
'best friends when I was Small were Jane Price and Janet Thomas-where are they
now? Later my friends were Carol Davidson (later Harding) and Shirley Jones
(later Penny) I went to Bleantillery Infants, The British School, Gelli Crug
School, The Grammer School and Nantyglo Comp. My paternal Grand Parents were
Gwyn & Olga Young of Gwern Berthi Road. By the way what happened to Tony
& Sandra Bradley who ran the Post Office in Gwern Berthi? I went to West
Bank Chapel, Mr.Whiltshire & Miss Day were the teachers. And I can remember
catching 'Taddies' down the 'Jinny' and up on the old brown tip, playing in the
brook that ran through the 'Reck' playground, playing on the winder that was
under the bridge on the west side, so many happy memories. I am now the Mother
of 7 and Grandmother of 9,we all live in Somerset, have done for 20 odd years
now but like a true Welshman I am very proud of my home. Gods Own People From
Gods Own Land. I would love to hear from anyone who knew us.
Kind Regards. Lesley Butcher
Congratulations
During the school holidays in Aber I used to help Cecil Morgan
with his Co-op milk round and I have fond memories of going to the Co-op bakery
in Cwmtillery on Saturday mornings to collect a basket of bread. If I close my
eyes I can still smell that hot bread to this day. Congratulations on your
site. Ray Bevan (Bristol)
Memories of Cwmtillery
Looking at the opening photograph brought back many happy
memories. Mainly during the 50's I lived in one of the Roseheyworth Avenues. To
keep fit my friend, Bernard Jones, and I used to run up the Roseheyworth side
of the "Cock and Chick" mountain along the top, roughly in a NE direction and
then down into the valley shown in the photograph then down through the valley
past the lakes towards the old colliery, then finally along the roads to the
"Cock and Chick" school back to the avenues. I wish I could do it now. This is
a wonderful site, many thanks and well done. Mervyn Davies.
Memories of Cwmtillery
I am visiting my sister and she showed me the web site
which I was most interested in. I lived in Cwmtillery until I got married. Our
garden adjoined the colliery area. I used to walk through the colliery area to
go to Blaentillery School. I was also married in the West Bank Methodist Chapel.
We used to look forward to our Friday threepence (one and a quarter new pence)
which was our weekly pocket money. Life was poor but we were happy.
Cwmtillery Web Site
Congratulations Les on your Cwmtillery Web Site site. It
certainly brings back many happy memories. In 1948 I started work in the
Drawing offices at Cwmtillery Colliery as a Colliery Draughtsman after serving
two years in the British Army. Worked there until 1955 when I was transferred
to the Central Offices in Abercarn. We remain in contact with Abertillery via
the Abertillery RFC web site that Dr. David Llewellyn runs and now we look
forward to visiting your site. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you and
your Family from Vegas. Vegas Morley's ( Hilda & Ken )
Cwmtillery web site
I was most interested in the web site because my father worked
in Cwmtillery pit before there were any pit baths. He used to walk home to
Abertillery still in his pit clothes and had to bath in front of the fire.
Eventually, he moved to Cwmtillery and we lived near The South Wales Inn. Then
came the pit baths which made life much easier. He used to take the horses up to
the fields by the lakes for their holidays when the miners had theirs. I was
married in the West Bank Methodist Chapel and would love to see a photograph of
the chapel.
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